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bill_vail Airport Taxi

Joined: 14 Aug 2006 Posts: 36 Location: Charlotte, NC
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 6:51 pm Post subject: Power steering |
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| Does anyone know what power steering gearbox will work on a 76 a12 marathon. Mine has just started leaking like a sieve. Just imagine and only a few days from the trip. I don't know whether or not I'm going to make it . I thought about driving it anyway. |
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john_w Head Mechanic

Joined: 04 Apr 2005 Posts: 1028 Location: Springfield, IL
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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Bill,
The 1976 cross reference list (in the manuals section) shows a Saginaw 7818124
here's a Direct link to the 1976 cross reference:
1976 Cross Reference List in downloadable PDF format
The 1977 cross reference shows a Saginaw 7826673
The 1973 cross reference shows a Saginaw 7810860
I didn't find any listings doing some quick searches on 7818124 but it should be one of the standard GM power steering boxes. Most likely it is one of the 3.5 or so turn lock to lock boxes ... which were the norm on almost all GM passenger cars except for sporty high performance models. I'm sure the box has some numbers cast into it on the top side of it ... should match the 7818124 number but check to be sure. Get your local NAPA parts store to cross the number over. A rebuilt one will run you about $175 or so plus labor. Also, I believe there are rebuild seal kits since the seals are usually the problem when they leak.
I wouldn't drive it leaking if it is spraying fluid out ... that stuff is flammable when it gets on hot exhaust manifolds.
John W |
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bill_vail Airport Taxi

Joined: 14 Aug 2006 Posts: 36 Location: Charlotte, NC
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:39 pm Post subject: power steering |
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| John I've never changed a gear box what's involved? Thx Bill |
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john_w Head Mechanic

Joined: 04 Apr 2005 Posts: 1028 Location: Springfield, IL
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:16 am Post subject: |
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Bill,
A lot of labor and frustration. It also took me about 3 days for what a good front end shop can do in a few hours.
Seriously, you will need some special tools (tubing wrenches, torque wrench, pitman arm puller at minimum) and the ability to get the front end of the car a ways off the ground.
Also, I've only done front steer Checkers and your's is a rear steering, so this may not be 100% exact.
You will need to disconnect the power steering lines and will probably need a pair of tubing wrenches. When you do so, all the power steering fluid will drain out of the pump so have a catch pan.
Then you will need to loosen the steering shaft to steering gear box coupling at the box.
You will, at minimum, need to remove the pitman arm from the steering box output shaft and will need a special puller for that. I had trouble getting mine off even with a puller and ended up disconnecting the arm on the other end using a tie rod separator (pickle fork) and taking it to my front end guy's shop where he pulled it off for me.
The box itself is attached to the frame with three bolts. It is heavy so don't drop it ... depending on the box, you could be out a core charge of $50 to $70 if you damage it. On my front steer, I had to pull the sway bar loose to get clearance (breaking a couple of bolts I had to then remove and replace, adding time & frustration).
Reverse the process to install and torque all bolts to specs. The 1978 shop manual shows the following specs for a rear steer car on page 7-57 (I'm including most of the torque specs even though you won't loosen some of them):
Pitman shaft nut - 160 to 210 ft/lbs
Center link to pitman or idler - 35 to 45 ft/lbs
Idler to frame - 35 - 45 ft/lbs
Tie rod to center link or steering arm - 40 to 45 ft/lbs
Steering arm to knuckle - 90 to 103 ft/lbs
Gear box to frame bolts - 50 to 60 ft/lbs
Both hoses (at box) - 30 to 40 ft/lbs
Coupling flange bolt - 25 - 30 ft/lbs
Coupling flange nuts - 15 to 20 ft/lbs
Sway bar to frame bolts - 30 to 35 ft/lbs
My advice, with your time limitations at this point would be to take it to a shop and have it done.
John W |
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